This is why it's difficult to have an adult conversation. People don't listen.
It wouldn't be a conversation if the adult was there and realized that you're paying for the name and name only
You practically said that in your first post, which I expanded on showing just that. It's also adult to set your pride aside and realize when you're just wrong buddy. Of course, because I'm posting facts and showing how you're wrong it's not being an adult? Sure, keep thinking that.
I never said it was cheaper. I said it isn't as far off as most folks think it actually is. The only inferior hardware is the HDD. The CPU should be bumped up to a Quad version, but I don't consider it inferior, either.
The CPU is vastly inferior. We're talking a 1.6GHz dual core compared to 3.2GHz+ quad cores for
LESS money. The HDD is simply icing on the cake. You're talking to the one person you won't win an argument on with hardware, ever. From a hardware standpoint you literally are paying more for less. Period.
I already agreed that pre-built is cheaper than AIO. You say nobody needs 4k, but there are plenty of applications for such. Further, you should probably read up on Thunderbolt considering that Gigabyte and MSI are going to be picking up the port before calling it a step-child. Obviously, it still has the opportunity to fail, but as more manufacturer's are adopting it, it's probability of success goes up.
I have a 4k screen myself, I know what the capabilities are and the scaling in OSX is vastly superior but then we're talking an extra 400 bucks for a retina display and a machine that can't handle rendering + multitasking....... I also know quite a bit about Thunderbolt and know that for the past 3 motherboard generations 99% of the boards released don't have it AND the ones that support it require an add-in card due to the sheer lack of adoption. I also know that Thunderbolt 2 being 20Gb/s is limited to a 3 meter copper cable (because the optical is ****ing OP expensive) and most machines can't really handle that sheer amount of bandwidth. Daisy chaining is an argument, but we're talking use here. It's not very applicable and not much of an argument because the people who can afford to daisy chain Thunderbolt displays and HDDs can afford the high end Mac Pro.
We were discussing AIOs, and nothing else. Apple needs to refresh their hardware on entry level if they expect to keep up, specifically with the Mac Minis, which at one time would have competed with your example.
Macs have never competed on a hardware level with price to performance. I could strap a NUC onto a monitor and call it AIO for cheaper and still outperform a Mac.
Just because you don't use it doesn't mean that nobody uses it and as I already said it is being adopted more and more. Only the tinfoil hats tape over the cams, and I don't know but two of those type of folks. I already told you that it wasn't about winning or losing anything, merely discussing the options and showing that the price isn't as far off as you think. If you really feel like you have to be called a winner, then by all means I digress. Rekt? Childish.
I don't use it because it's an uncommon standard with USB3 being cheaper to adopt and widely available. Plus, there is almost literally nothing that requires 20Gb/s of bandwidth. This is the thought process of most tech savvy people looking at Thunderbolt. Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome standard but just like Firewire a bit ahead of it's time and too expensive to implement. You have to understand that on a fundamental level Thunderbolt is hard to warrant the cost to board manufacturers and peripheral creators because the hardware necessary is expensive. Just like PLX chips for high end boards. Plus, 5Gb/s and soon 10Gb/s from 3.1 is more than plenty for anything including high end SATA SSDs.
Dude, pretty much everybody covers cameras simply due to privacy (just look at all the hate Kinect got and still gets). Tin foil hat calling is as childish as saying rekt, but yes I do act a bit childing when people want to argue in favor of Apple when their points are all wrong. To me you're automatically ignorant if you don't admit that you pay for the Apple name. It's that simple.
Edit: Am I being a bit too harsh? I'd say so, but unless you have a specific reasoning to actually get a Mac there is no warrant other than personal preference to buy one. That's why I argue so harshly in favor of PC. So it's nothing against you personally, I just have to deal with the same crap at work and iterating the same points over and over again. It just gets old.